# Confession Of A Woman Called Claesken, Who Laid Down Her Life For The Testimony Of Jesus, A. D. 1559. · Page 2 of 7

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Inquisitor. “Why did you have yourself baptized?”
Claesken. “The Scriptures speak of a new
life. John first calls to repentance, Christ himself
also, and afterwards the apostles; they taught the
people to repent and reform, and then to be baptized.
Thus did I repent and reform, and was baptized.”
Against this he did not say much. Inq.
“Why did you not have your children baptized?”
Cl. “I cannot find in the Scriptures that this ought
to be.” Inq. “David says: ‘I was shapen in iniquity,
and in sin did my mother conceive me.’
Ps. 51:5. Since children are born with original sin,
they must be baptized, if they are to be saved.”
Cl. “If a man can be saved by an external sign,
then Christ has died in vain.” Inq. “It is written,
John 3:5, that we must be born again, of water and
of the Spirit; hence, children must be baptized.”
Cl. “Christ does not say this to children, but to
the adult; therefore did I become regenerated. We
know that the children are in the hands of the Lord.
The Lord said: ‘Suffer little children to come unto
me; for of such is the kingdom of heaven.’ ” Matthew
19:14. Inq. “The household of Stephanas was
baptized, which probably also included children.”
1 Cor. 1:16. Cl. “We do not depend on probabilities;
we have the certain assurance.” He did not
say much against this either. Inq. “What do you
think of the holy church?” Cl. “I think much of
it.” Inq. “Why then do you not go to church?”
Cl. “I think nothing of your church-going.” Inq.
“Do you believe that God is Almighty?” Cl. “Yes,
I believe this.” Inq. “Do you then also believe that
Christ consecrates himself, and is present in the
bread? Paul says: ‘The bread which we break, is
it not the communion of the body of Christ? And
the cup which we bless, is it not the communion of
the blood of Christ?’ ” 1 Cor. 10:16. Cl. “I well
know what Paul says, and believe it, too.” Inq.
“Christ said: ‘Take, eat; this is my body;’ and
Paul likewise.” Matt. 26:26; 1 Cor. 11:24. Cl. “I
well know what Christ and Paul say, and thus I believe.”
Inq. “Do you believe that Christ consecrates
himself, and is present in the bread?” Cl.
“Christ sitteth at the right hand of his Father; he
does not come under men’s teeth.” Inq. “If you
continue in this belief, you will have to go into the
abyss of hell forever. It is what all heretics say.
Jelis of Aix-la-Chapelle has deceived you; he himself
has renounced his belief, because he saw that
he had erred.” Cl. “I do not depend on Jelis, or
any other man, but only on Christ; he is our foundation,
upon whom we have built ourselves, even
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as Christ teaches us in his Gospel: Whosoever heareth
my words, and doeth them, I will liken him
unto a wise man, who built his house upon a rock;
and though storms come, and beat against the
house, yet it will not fall. Matt. 7:24. These now
are the storms that beat against our house; but
Christ is our stronghold, and he will preserve us.”
Inq. “You do not understand it; there are many
other writings, of which you know nothing.” Cl.
“We need no other writings than the holy Gospel,
which Christ himself, with his blessed mouth, has
spoken to us, and sealed with his blood; if we can
observe that, we shall be saved.” Inq. “You should
suffer yourself to be instructed; the holy fathers
instituted churching[278](/en/stories/mm-footnotes/part-16/#Footnote_278) fifteen hundred years ago.”
Cl. “The holy fathers did not have this holiness;
these are human commandments and institutions.
Neither did the apostles practice this holiness; I
never read it.” Inq. “Are you wiser than the holy
church?” Cl. “I do not wish to do anything against
the holy church; I have yielded myself to the obedience
of the holy church.” Inq. “You should think:
Do I know better than the holy fathers fifteen hundred
years ago? You should think that you are
simple.” Cl. “Though I am simple before men,
I am not simple in the knowledge of the Lord. Do
you not know that the Lord thanked his Father,
that he had hid these things from the wise and
prudent, and had revealed them to the simple and
unto babes?” Matt. 11:25.

At one time there were also two monks with him,
who were to instruct me. They had but little to
say, only that we were people of corrupt minds,
reprobate concerning the faith, ever learning, and
never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1 Tim. 6:5; 2 Tim. 3:7,8. I replied: “When the
day of the Lord will come, you will find it to be
otherwise; take heed lest you then be of those who
will say: ‘These are they whom we had in derision;
behold, how they are now numbered among the
children of God, and their lot is among the saints.’
Wis. 5:3,5. Then they said: “Behold, she judges
us.” I replied: “I do not judge you; but I tell you
to take heed unto yourselves. Now our life is accounted
madness, and our end to be without honor;
but when the day of the Lord comes, it will be
found quite different.” The sum of the matter was,
that I had a devil, and was deceived. I said: “Is
Christ then a deceiver?” He replied: “No; Christ
is no deceiver.” I said: “Then I am not deceived;
I neither seek nor desire anything else than to fear
the Lord with all my heart, and (knowingly) not
to transgress one tittle of his commandments.”
After he had talked to me still further, he said:
“I can tell you nothing else; you may consider the
matter.” I replied: “I need not consider it otherwise;
I know full well that I hold the truth.”



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