# Confession Of Claes De Praet Who For The Testimony Of Jesus Christ, And His Word Was Imprisoned And Burnt At Ghent, And Laid Down His Life As A Burnt Offering Unto The Lord A. D. 1556. · Page 3 of 8

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Then the jailer came, and said: “Claes, come
hither; here are two royston crows;” and enjoined
me much to think of my wife and children. I said:
“I think of them enough; but Christ has said:
‘Whosoever will not forsake father and mother,
sister and brother, wife, child, yea, his own life, for
my name’s sake, is not worthy of me.’ ” Matthew
10:37; Luke 14:26. He said: “It is true, if one
can do it.” He then led me into a room where were
two Jacobines. They took off their caps, and I did
the same with mine. They bade me good evening,
and I them. The one asked me: “What is your
name, my friend?” I answered: “Claes,” and
said: “What is your name?” He replied: “Brother
Peter de Backer,” and told me, that he had
been at the chief judge’s, and that the latter had requested
that he should come and instruct me in the
true faith. I said: “This I have received from
God.” Ques. “What is your faith?” Claes. “I
believe only in Christ Jesus, that he is the living
and true Son of God, and that there is no other
salvation either in heaven or on earth.” Ques. “Is
there nothing else to be believed? What becomes
of the mother, the holy church, in whom we must
believe?” Claes. “Do you know which is the holy
church?” Ques. “Do you know it, let me hear it?”
Claes. “I ask you; for you speak of it?.” Ans.
“The same which was it from the time of Christ,
and of the apostles, and which the apostles maintained
and still maintain.” Claes. “What one is
that?” Ans. “The mother, the holy Roman
church.” Claes. “Is this the apostolic church?”
Ans. “Yes.” Claes. “Did the apostles thus maintain
it?” Ans. “Yes, just as we, neither less nor
more.” Claes. “Did the apostles read mass?”
Ans. “Yes.” Claes. “Where is this written?”
Ans. “I will show you;” and he referred me to the
Corinthians, where Paul speaks of the supper.
1 Cor. 11:20. I said: “He speaks here of the
breaking of bread; but did he read mass as you
do?” Ans. “Yes, neither less nor more than we
do.” Claes. “Did the apostles persecute and
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maintain their church with fire and sword, as you
do?” Ans. “Yes, they shed blood, betrayed and
killed.” Claes. “Peter shed the blood of Malchus,
and Judas betrayed; but where did they kill any
one?” Ans. “Peter smote Ananias and Sapphira
with the sword of his mouth, so that they fell down
dead.” And he laughed and held up his finger.
Then said I: “It seems to me you belong to those
of whom Paul speaks (2 Tim. 3:5), whom we are to
flee; for your folly does not remain hid, but becomes
manifest before men; for you sit and mock and
loiter, and show plainly, that you are men of corrupt
minds, ever learning, and never able to come to the
knowledge of the truth.” And I reproved him
much. They wanted to prolong the conversation
much longer, and question me with regard to baptism,
the incarnation of Christ, and other articles of
faith; but I had resolved not to dispute with them,
without judges being present; but to confess as I
confessed above before them. When they perceived
that I would hear them no longer, and was on the
point of leaving, one of them said: “O Claes, how
lamentably you have gone astray; and yet I love
you so much; I would that you were of our mind
with me, and that I might give my body to be
burned. O poor man, I will pray for you, and have
others pray for you, when I preach.” Claes. “I
don’t want you to pray for me, nor that you have
others pray for me; for your prayer is vain, and is
not heard by God, so long as you people continue
in your wickedness.” Ans. “Perhaps there are one
or two in the whole number, that are good.” Claes.
“Begone; for you only want to talk.” Then he went
away laughing, saying: “I shall have you prayed
for, whether you desire it or not, for I like you well;
and I will come again.”

About two weeks afterwards, there came two of
the same band; the one was a large fat man, who
had much talk in him; the other was very fierce
and captious in his remarks, and wanted much to
engage me in a disputation; but I would not enter
into any, only that I put many questions to them,
as I had done to the others, and made them expose
their wickedness themselves; for very many
prisoners had come and stationed themselves back
under the window of the room, and behind the door,
to listen; which I well knew; hence I asked the
more, because the one was so loquacious, which was
owing to him having imbibed too much.



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