# Confession Of Jacques D’Auchy, Made Before The Commissary And The Inquisitor. · Page 12 of 27

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He laughingly asked me: “Have you the Spirit
of God?” Jac. “My lord, you must not ask me
this in jest; for I do not boast of it; nevertheless,
I trust through the grace of God, that I am not
actuated by the spirit of Satan.” Inq. “Nevertheless,
you are deceived and in error, and Paul says
that such shall be avoided after the first or second
admonition.” Jac. “Since then you regard us as
heretics, O that God would give, that you would
at least use Paul’s advice, that is shun us, and withdraw
from us, and not persecute us unto death, and
shed our blood in every corner.” Inq. “Jacques,
I do not seek your death, God knows.” Jac. “My
lord, my God truly knows it well, and it will be
seen in the end.” Inq. “Yes, we only do what we
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have been charged with and commanded to do.”
Jac. “By whom, my lord, by God or by men?”
Inq. “We are commanded by God to avoid false
prophets.” Jac. “It is indeed true, my lord, that
Christ admonishes us to beware of false prophets,
but he gives us a sign whereby to know them,
namely, like a tree is known by its fruits. What
fruits have you seen on us, by which you could
judge that we are false prophets?” Inq. “Enough
everyday.” Jac. “Wherein?” Inq. “In this that
you have a false doctrine, which teaches men amiss,
and leads them into damnation.” Jac. “My lord,
that our doctrine is false, is merely your opinion;
nevertheless, you cannot know that we are false
prophets, except by the fruit of the works, by which
it may be known whether we are false prophets or
not; for Christ says: Ye shall know them by their
works (Matt. 7:16); but he does not say, by their
faith.” Inq. “You people justify yourselves by your
works.” Jac. “No; but it is impossible to gather
grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles, or that a corrupt
tree should bring forth good fruit, according to the
testimony of the Lord.” Inq. “Well, Jacques, as
I told you, I have not come here for the purpose
of disputing, but simply to learn your decision.”
Jac. “I do not wish to dispute either; but I want
to reply to you, that you unjustly accuse us of
heresy and deception.” Inq. “Well, let us dismiss
that; to what conclusion have you come in regard
to your confession? do you still hold to the views
which you confessed before the commissary?” Jac.
“Yes.” Inq. “Will you not then suffer yourself
to be instructed?” Jac. “I seek nothing else, but
always to follow that which is best, most righteous
and most virtuous, and I am not so obstinate in my
faith; if I would know a better way to eternal life,
than the one which I now have, I would accept it.”
Inq. “Well then, concerning baptism and the sacrament,
of which we spoke together, what do you
think in regard to it?” Jac. “Only that, my lord,
which shall be proven to me by the Scriptures; that
shall I believe, and nothing else.” Inq. “Then you
do not believe the holy teachers of the Catholic
church, do I hear no?” Jac. “I believe only the
holy Scriptures.” Inq. “This is the reason why
you are in heresy; that you think more of yourself
than of the holy teachers.” Jac. “I glory not, save
in the cross of Christ; but I will not trust in any
man; for it is written: ‘Cursed be the man that
trusteth in man.’ ” Jer. 17:5. Inq. “I know that;
but you do not believe the word of God either.”
Jac. “My lord, do not say this; for it is not so.”
Inq. “Not? if our Savior, taking the bread, says:
This is my body; and, taking the cup: This is
my blood; why then do you not yet believe him?
why do you doubt it?” Jac. “My lord, I believe
Christ’s words, and do not doubt them.” Inq. “Yes,
according to your own opinion, and with a different
meaning.” Jac. “My lord, I trust that I do not
understand it differently from what the apostles
understand it, even as Paul expounds it.” 1 Corinthians
10. Inq. “You say so.”

We had many more words yet about this article,
also about baptism, and a little afterwards about
purgatory, and the decree, in all for about an hour
and a half; whereupon he left me, showing me a
very nice and friendly countenance, whether it came
from the heart, I do not know.



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