# Confession Of Jacques D’Auchy, Made Before The Commissary And The Inquisitor. · Page 13 of 27

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On the 20th of January of said year, I was again
brought before the same inquisitor. He asked me:
“To what conclusion have you come in regard to
what I laid before you concerning baptism and the
sacrament, and what are your views in the matter?”
Jac. “I have nothing to tell you than that you have
already heard from me.” Inq. “Then, if I hear
right, you remain opinionated and obstinate?”
Jac. “My lord, I should be sorry to be obstinate
against my own conscience; but as you cannot
prove to me by the Scriptures that which you believe,
namely, that the baptism of infants is an ordinance
of God, and an apostolical practice, and also,
that the bread and the wine are changed into flesh
and blood, when the priest has pronounced the
words over the bread, this seems to me sorcery,
and I cannot understand it so.” Inq. “You may
not doubt that the change takes place through the
power of God, for I have sufficiently proven it to
you by the Scriptures of God; but you will not believe.”
Jac. “My lord, do not say so; for if you
had proven it to me by the Scriptures, I should
gladly believe it; for all my salvation lies in God’s
holy word.” Inq. “I have quoted to you the word
of God; but you believe nothing but your fanaticism
and opinion.” Jac. “My lord, I beg you not to
think this; if I knew better, or understood it differently,
I should not wish to resist the word of God
against my conscience, being in the state in which I
am, namely, imprisoned for my life, in daily expectation
of death; or it might well be said that I was
the most miserable and unfortunate man that ever
lived upon earth, that I should voluntarily and premeditatedly
seek pain and suffering here until death,
in order to obtain eternal damnation.” Inq. “Yes,
my child, take good heed what you do; for if you
die in this evil faith and doctrine you have, you are
damned to all the devils.” Jac. “O my lord, how
dare you speak so? It is written: ‘Judge not, that
ye be not judged; for with what judgment ye judge
(says the Lord), ye shall be judged.’ ” Matt. 7:1,2.
Inq. “I judge you according to truth.” Jac. “My
lord, do not say that; for you know not what you
judge.” Inq. “O yes, I do.” And taking up an
inkstand, which stood on the table, he said to me:
“As sure as I know that I hold this inkstand, so
assured am I, that if you continue in this doctrine,
and die thus, you will never see the face of God,
but will be eternally damned.” Jac. “My lord, do
not judge so; for you usurp God’s place, and rob
him of his honor; for judgment belongs unto him
alone.” Inq. “Do you think that I do not know
what I am saying? and that I do not see that you
are in error? no heretics shall enter into paradise.”
Jac. “My lord, you think that we are in error; but
as you people think of us, so we think of you.”
Inq. “O it is easy to know through the word of
God, who are in error and heresy.” Jac. “True,
it is easy to know for those to whom the Lord has
given the grace and wisdom. And for this reason I
beg you, my lord, not to take it amiss, if I speak
somewhat boldly with you, and open my heart to
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you.” Inq. “No indeed.” Jac. “My lord, as you
people think that we are false prophets and deceivers,
so we think that you are; as you think that we
err, so we think that you err; as you think that we
deceive the people, so we think that you deceive
them, and upon this we forsake life and all that we
have in the world, to show to you people, and to
seal with our blood, the faith which we have in
God.” Inq. “Nevertheless, this only tends to your
damnation.” Jac. “If it tends to our damnation, we
are of all men under heaven the most miserable
(1 Cor. 15:19); for we are cast out, despised and
rejected as abominable before all the world (1 Corinthians
4:9), and flee from place to place, so that
we suffer continually in the flesh, and have no rest,
and, according to what you say, we are also to suffer
after this life: no, no, my lord, we feel quite a
different witness and promise through the word of
God.” Inq. “This arises from the fact that you
are deceived; but it will avail you nothing.”
Jac.



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