# Confession Of Jacques D’Auchy, Made Before The Commissary And The Inquisitor. · Page 15 of 27

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On the 27th of January of the aforementioned
year I was again brought before the same inquisitor.
After a few words he asked me to what conclusion
I had come with regard to what he had said, namely,
with reference to baptism and the sacrament. Thereupon
I replied to him as I had done at other times,
that I knew nothing better than to adhere to my
first confession, seeing I could not find in the Scriptures
that which he laid before me, and which he
would constrain me to believe. Inq. “Will you
then remain obstinate herein, and not believe otherwise?”
Jac. “I am not obstinate, but I do not
find in the Scriptures that which you say I must believe.”
Inq. “Not? do you not find in the Scriptures
what you must believe concerning the sacrament?”
Jac. “Yes, but not in the manner in
which you believe; for I cannot understand it so.”
Inq. “The reason is you do not want to understand
it.” Jac. “How, my lord, do you mean that I want
to resist God against my conscience? in this case I
should be worse than an irrational beast.” Inq.
“Why then do you not understand it?” Jac. “Because
it is not given me to understand it differently;
and be not surprised at this, for it is written in the
prophets, where the Lord says: ‘They shall all be
taught of God.’ ” Is. 54:13. Inq. “Nevertheless,
it seems to me, that if I lay it before you with the
Scriptures, it is nothing but opinionativeness and obstinacy,
if you do not want to believe it.” Jac. “I
cannot understand it so; think not that if I understood
it differently, I should want to find my pleasure
and amusement here in being imprisoned and
chained day after day, having forsaken my wife and
family, to my great damage, expecting death from
day to day, for this were contrary to human nature.”
Inq. “Well then, believe only in the word of God
as it is written there, and I will be satisfied, namely,
that when we eat the bread, we partake of the body
of Christ, and when we drink the wine, we have part
in his blood, as Paul testifies to the Corinthians.”
1 Cor. 10:16. Jac. “Be satisfied then; I believe as
Paul testifies there.” Inq. “Do you believe then
that there is a communion of the body of Christ?”
Jac. “Yes.” Inq. “Well then, you cannot be a
partaker of the body without eating of it; hence you
580
must certainly say that it is the body of Christ which
you eat.” Jac. “Paul does not say this.” Inq.
“How can you be a partaker of the body without
eating of it?” Jac. “How did Israel become partakers
of the altar, who did not eat the altar, but
only the sacrifices?” 1 Cor. 10:18. Inq. “Ha ha!
see how Calvin or Zuinglius has instructed you.”
Jac. “I do not hold the doctrine of Calvin or Zuinglius.”
Inq. “Whose then, Menno Simon’s?”
Jac. “My doctrine and faith are not founded upon
men, but upon the word of God.” Inq. “Who
then is the head and captain of you people?” Jac.
“Christ.” Inq. “But who is it that instructs you
here upon earth, who is your teacher?” Jac. “The
word of God.”

When I perceived that he did not know to what
church I belonged, I did not want to tell or indicate
it to him.

Inq. “Nevertheless, you must be instructed herein
by some men.” Jac. “We are not founded upon
men, but upon the living Rock.” Inq. “Have
you then no pastor or bishop?” Jac. “Yes.” Inq.
“Who is it?” Jac. “Christ the Son of God.”
Inq. “You know very well what I mean; but you
do not want to answer; however, have you any adherents
of Calvin or Zuinglius? are you opposed to
Menno Simon?” Jac. “I believe that there is not
much difference between my faith and Menno Simon’s”
Inq. “Do you then believe like Menno,
that Christ did not assume our flesh in the virgin
Mary?” Jac. “My lord, you said that you would
not dispute about the matter; have you changed
your mind?” Inq. “Well then tell me simply what
you believe concerning it.” Jac. “I believe that he
is the Son of God in every respect, in flesh and
spirit; but as to whence he took his flesh, this I leave
in the mystery of God; the apostles did not dispute
concerning it.” Inq. “Yes, yes.” We had also
many other words yet, which I have not written
here.



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