# Confession Of Jacques D’Auchy, Made Before The Commissary And The Inquisitor. · Page 26 of 27

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Perceiving that he could not answer me, and that
two or three persons were listening at the door, besides
the jailer, who is always with the prisoners, he
commenced to give me a long talk, saying that I
must not inquire so deeply into the Scriptures, but
suffer myself to be instructed by those more learned
than I, and that I must believe that a sinful man, of
wicked life could have the faith as well as another,
and that I must hear his words, but not do after his
works. Jac. “Must I believe this by the Scriptures,
or without the Scriptures?” Inq. “I have proven
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it to you by the Scriptures.” Jac. “By what Scriptures?”
Inq. “By the cases of Judas and Demas,
who had faith, and yet were wicked of life.” Jac.
“My lord, it appears to me that our words are mere
child’s play; have I not replied to this, and proven
to you, that it becomes us not to take those who
have apostatized from the faith for leaders and
pastors?” Inq. “Where do you expect to find
blameless pastors such as you demand? do you not
see that the world is full of knavery?” Jac. “If you
do not know any, I know some, and such I will
follow.” Inq. “Where are they?” Jac. “They are
unknown to you; do you not know that when the
prophet thought that all the righteous in Israel had
been slain by Ahab and Jezebel, the Lord said that
there were seven thousand left yet, who had not
bowed their knees unto the idol Baal.” 1 Kings
19:10. Inq. “It was because of the persecution raging
at that time, that they were so scattered.” Jac.
“Thus it is yet at the present day on account of
persecution, that they are scattered, and unknown
to the world. Inq. “But must you for a Menno, or
any other single individual, who seem to lead a good
life, must you therefore follow him, and forsake all
the other bishops and pastors, who do not walk just
as uprightly?” Jac. “My lord, do you think that
if Ahab, the King of Israel had forsaken the counsel
of the four hundred prophets, and followed the
single advice of poor Micaiah, he would have done
amiss?” Inq. “Certainly not; for Micaiah was a
prophet of God.” Jac. “Did not the others say
that they were too? and did they not smite poor
Micaiah on the cheek, because he prophesied against
them, and say to him: ‘Do you think that the
Spirit of God has departed from us?’ ” Inq. “They
boasted of the Holy Spirit, but falsely; for they did
not have him?” Jac. “Ahab did not know that; for
because Micaiah had alone prophesied against the
four hundred prophets, the poor man of God was
cast into prison on scanty bread and water, till Ahab
should return from the battle at Ramoth-gilead; but
he found that the counsel of the four hundred prophets
cost him his life, as Micaiah had foretold him.”
Inq. “The events recorded in these passages occurred
in former times.” Jac. “Paul says that all
was written for our learning; and the same things
still happen at the present day.” Rom, 15:4. Inq.
“Well then, then you will not hear or follow any
pastors, except they practice what they teach?”
Jac. “No; for it is written: ‘The light of the body
is the eye; if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall
be full of darkness.’ ” Matt. 6:22. Inq. “Then you
will not follow the advice of Jesus Christ, namely,
to do after their words, and not after their works.”
Jac. “To whom does he say this?” Inq. “To his
disciples.” Jac. “Of whom does he say it?” Inq.
“Jesus Christ says: ‘The scribes and the Pharisees
sit on Moses’ seat: all therefore whatsoever they bid
you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye
after their works.’ ” Matt. 23:1,2. Jac. “What
kind of a seat was it, wooden or stone?” Inq. “It
was the seat that was there.” Jac. “How could so
many people sit in one seat? was it so large? or was
it not the law Christ alluded to?” Inq. “It is the
same thing, the law which they proclaimed.” Jac.
“The law was a command of God, and not of men,
and when Christ said this, he did not choose them
to feed or lead his flock.” Inq. “When he said:
Do after their words, and not after their works, did
he not appoint them pastors?” Jac. “Have you not
read what the Lord says: ‘Except your righteousness
shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes
and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the
kingdom of heaven.’ Matt. 5:20. Behold, here they
are already excluded; how then shall they lead
others?” Inq. “Do only after their words.” Jac.
“Have you no other pastors among you, to proclaim
the word of God, than such scribes and Pharisees,
whom God has threatened with so many
curses? Does not the prophet say: Blessed is the
man that has not sat among the ungodly? Ps. 1:1.
And Christ admonishes us to beware of their leaven.”
Matt. 16:6. Inq. “You must not understand it
thus, but believe that an ungodly man can indeed
speak good things.” Jac. “It is written: ‘Praise is
not seemly in the mouth of the ungodly, because
they are not sent of God.’ Sir. 15:9. ‘And how
shall they preach, except they be sent?’ ” Romans
10:15. Inq. “It is true, it is not seemly, but he
does not say that it is not good.” Jac. “If it is not
seemly, then it is not acceptable; for what repentance
can an impenitent man proclaim? For, if a
thief admonish his companion not to steal any more,
will his word have any effect? will not his companion
say: If it is wrong to do it, why do you do it
yourself. Rom. 2:21. Ye hypocrites, cast out the
beam out of your own eyes, and then shall you see
clearly the dust in my eyes.” Matt. 7:5. Inq. “You
pervert every Scripture into the contrary, according
to your own notion and understanding; you must not
build upon yourself so much, but subject your understanding
to the understanding of those that are
wiser than you are.” Jac. “My lord, I always
speak, with your permission, that if anything better
is proven to me, I will follow it.”



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