# Divers Examinations Of Reytse Aysess Before The Commissary, Pastors, Priests, Bishops, And Others. · Page 5 of 5

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After I had been in prison twelve weeks, they led
me into the castellan’s house, where were the bishop
with a councillor, the pastor of Oudenhoof, the pastor
of Nyehoof, the pastor of Jorwert, and the bishop’s
commissary. After they had taken their seats,
they called me, and when I came in I took off my
hat and sat as a sheep in the midst of a troop of
wolves. They looked at me sharply and earnestly;
but the Lord my God, in whom I trust, strengthened
me and gave me a bold heart, so that I was
fearless before them all. The bishop commenced,
and asked me whether I would still continue in the
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faith. I was silent for a while, for it seemed unnecessary
to me to answer that question; but he had
so much to say, that I was finally compelled to defend
myself; for I had resolved not to dispute any
more. Thus I occasionally reproved and contradicted
their foolish ignorance, for I was grieved that
the truth should be so blasphemed; and that they
should not think that I would listen to them. The
sum and substance of what they said was, that I was
seduced, and that those who had taught me had
been seducers, as Menno, who was a vagabond. I
said that I did not rely upon Menno, or human
doctrine, but only upon the word of God; in this I
desire by the help of the Lord to live and to die.
We also had many other words, as, of infant baptism.
I said: “It is not contained in the Scriptures,
that the children are to be baptized; if this had been
the will of the Lord, he would doubtless have commanded
it: but since there is nothing written concerning
it, and neither our Lord Jesus Christ nor
his apostles have made mention of it, it is a great
presumption, that we poor, vain human creatures
want to improve it, whereas it is written, that we
are not to add to, or take away from the Lord’s
commandments: he that does this, upon him eternal
woe is pronounced.” (Deut. 4:2; Prov. 30:6; Revelation
22:18).

Finally the bishop said that none of all the articles
so surprised him, than this: That I did not believe
that the Lord Jesus Christ is now personally man in
heaven, just as he was upon earth, with wounds and
stripes which he received from the Jews. This I
would not accept because I had not read of it, but I
said: “I believe that he is now in the Divinity, sitting
at the right hand of the almighty Father, in his
glory, and shall come again with power and majesty,
as the Scripture testifies with regard to it.” Then
the bishop took the Bible, and read the vision which
John had seen in the Island of Patmos, of one who
was like unto the Son of man; and when he had
read it, he closed the book, for it contradicted him.
A man can certainly not be of such a nature in his
members, as John declares of that vision.

They then rehearsed the articles of my faith anew,
and I confessed as I had always confessed before;
and after they had noted it down, they went away.
The councillor said that I had forfeited my life, according
to the decree. They then took me back
into prison.

I would have related all these matters at length,
but my gift is small, and my hand heavy for writing;
hence I must run over them very briefly.

After I had been imprisoned about thirteen weeks,
they conducted me once more into the castellan’s
house, where was the pastor of Nyehoof, who again
began to say that Christ is now personally in heaven,
as he was upon earth, in like form as we are. I defended
myself, and proved it to him from John’s
Revelation. He said that no one could understand
John’s Revelation, which surprised me. And in all
his remarks he called me brother. I said: “Why
do you call me brother? I do not want to be your
brother.” He answered that he hoped that we
should yet become one fold. And after some more
conversation he left me.



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