# Hans Van Overdam Put To Death At Ghent; Also His Confession, Written In Prison, And Afterwards Sealed With His Blood, In The Year 1550. · Page 4 of 7

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The Lord then, according to his promise, gave
us a mouth, to speak boldly, and we requested to
be allowed publicly to defend ourselves with the
word of God. They replied to us, that they would
send us learned men, who would instruct us; whereupon
we were taken below again.

Shortly after, I was taken above into another
room, to two councilors and a clerk. There they
interrogated me very closely, where I had been,
and if I knew that I had been banished six years
ago, in the time of Martin Huereblock, and where
we had held our meetings; all of which they knew,
for the traitor had already told them. I said: “Why
do you ask me, who have come from foreign countries?”
(For I purposely did not wish to ask much,
that, in case I should be apprehended, I might not
have much to answer.) “Why do you question me
so closely? have you not yet enough innocent blood
to shed? do you thirst for still more?” “Ask as
471
closely as you want to,” said I; “the righteous
Judge shall ask you again, if you do not repent.”

They then asked me still more, and adjured me
by my baptism, that I should tell them; “For,”
said they, “we know that you people do not lie;
hence tell us.”

I said: “That you know that we do not lie, is to
us a testimony of salvation, but to you of perdition
(Phil. 1:28), because you put such to death; but
your adjuration has no power against the truth.”

All that I said was written down, and they threatened
to torture me if I would not tell them everything.
I said: “I can not tell you what I do not
know.” Thus they tormented me for a very long
time. Thereupon I was taken below again. In this
manner they dealt with all our friends, with each
separately.

One Saturday I was taken above again into the
same room. Four monks were present; the guardian
of the Minorites, with another, and the Superior
of the Jacobines, with another. With me there came
a young brother, who had not yet received baptism,
but was ready for it.

When I had seated myself, I asked them what
they wished. They said they were sent by the lords,
to instruct us, and to converse with us concerning
the ground and articles of faith. I replied that I was
ready to be instructed with the word of God, and
to hold converse concerning the ground and articles
of faith, and this publicly, in the presence of the
judges who were to judge us, and of our brethren
and sisters that were imprisoned with us.

Ans. “This they will not permit.”

Hans van Overdam. “Well, let them do what
they please; we will not dispute secretly and alone,
lest our words be perverted behind our backs.”

Ans. “We will not pervert your words.”

Hans. “No, we know you well.”

Ques. “What do you take us for? what evil did
we ever do you? pray, tell us what evil do you
know of us?”

Hans. “If you would know it then; I regard you
as false prophets and seducers.”

Here we got into a dispute concerning their spiritual
semblance, and the command of the Pope regarding
the purity of the priests and monks, and
why they were called spiritual, and others secular,
when all ought to be spiritual.

They then said: “This is not profitable; let us
dispute about the articles of faith.”

Thereupon I said: “What I have said I have
said.”

They replied that they would tell it to the lords.
Thus we separated, having disputed with each other
for fully two hours. Two days after, Hansken and
I were summoned before the lords; the four monks
were present, and attempted to engage us in a disputation.

I then said to the lords: “My lords, I ask you,
in what house are we, in a house of justice, or of
violence?”

Ans. “In a house of justice.”

Hans. “God grant that it be so; but, my lords,
of what do you accuse us, that you keep us imprisoned
and confined like thieves and murderers?
Have we wronged any one, or do you charge us
with violence, murder, or roguery?”

Ans. “No; we know no such thing of you.”

Hans. “Well, my lords, why then have you imprisoned
us?”

Ans. “Your adversaries will tell you that.”

Hans. “Are you our adversaries?”

Ans. “No, but we are judges.”

I then said to the monks: “Are you our adversaries?”

Ans. “No.”

Hans. “Well, if no one is our adversary, why
are we imprisoned?”

A councilor then said: “The Emperor is your
adversary.”

Hans. “We have not offended against his Imperial
Majesty according to the power which he has
received from God, and will obey him in every
ordinance, as far as we can do so consistently with
the truth.”



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