# Hans Van Overdam Put To Death At Ghent; Also His Confession, Written In Prison, And Afterwards Sealed With His Blood, In The Year 1550. · Page 5 of 7

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Councilor. “You have held meetings of this new
doctrine, and the Emperor has commanded that this
should not be done.”

Hans. “God has not authorized him to make
such commandments; in this he transcends the
power which God has given him, and in this we do
not recognize his supremacy; for the salvation of
our souls concerns us more, so that we show obedience
to God.”

The monks then said: “We are your adversaries,
in that your doctrine is not good; for if it were good,
you would not preach in woods and corners, but
openly.”

Hans then said: “Grant us a free place in the
market, or in your monasteries and churches, and
see whether we then shall go into the woods; but no,
you are afraid that you would be reproved; hence
you have brought it about, that you cannot be reproved,
and have driven us from cities and countries.”

Monks. “Alas! we have not done it; the Emperor
does it.”

Hans. “You have urged him to it.”

Monks. “We have not.”

The lords also then began to speak against us,
why we were not content with the faith of our parents,
and with our baptism.

We replied: “We know of no infant baptism,
but of a baptism upon faith, concerning which the
word of God teaches us.”

We then had many other words, and reproved
them for undertaking to be judges in matters of
faith, when they did not understand the Scriptures.
“If you would be judges, be impartial, and let the
matter proceed in regular order; let both parties
appear together, and let our brethren and sisters
that have been brought prisoners here together with
us, be with us. Then one of us, whose mouth the
Lord shall open, will speak, and the others shall
listen in silence while he is speaking; and thus shall
also our adversaries do.”

Lords. “We will not let you come together; we
would have you dispute alone here.”

We then said: “My lords, it would be the most
convenient for you, and the whole matter could be
472
finished with one disputation; otherwise you will
constantly have to dispute anew with one or two at
a time.”

Lords. “What then? we will not have it so.”

Then a councilor said: “They want to have them
together, in order to seduce one another still more;
therefore they cannot be allowed to come together.”

Hans. “My lords, you say that you are judges,
but we regard you as our adversaries; for you seek
to injure us in every way, and to cause us and our
brethren by violence and subtlety, to apostatize
from our faith.”

Ans. “Why should we not do this, in order to
bring them back?”

Hans. “Well, my lords, hear this: since we see
that you are no judges, but our adversaries, and
employ, wherever you can, all violence and subtlety,
to your advantage, and our detriment: Firstly, you
have by violence deprived us of our testaments, in
which we find our consolation; secondly, you have
confined us separately, some in deep, dark dungeons,
others in rooms up above; and thirdly, you
seek to outwit and deceive us by separate disputations,
afterwards to say behind our backs, to our
brethren, that you had overcome us, and, vice versa,
to say the same to us concerning our brethren and
sisters; therefore, my lords, we will not dispute here,
unless our brethren and sisters are present.”

When they heard that their design against us
did not proceed according to their wish, they became
greatly enraged, and also the monks. We saw
easily enough to what it amounted, and that all they
did was pure deception; for though it was proven
by the Scriptures, with regard to several articles,
that they were in the wrong, yet they would not acknowledge
it, and excused themselves with the Emperor
and his mandates, and the monks with the
long continued customs of the Roman church (Wisdom
14:16), and the great number of our forefathers;
and when the contrary had been proven to
them from the Scriptures, it was just as before, even
as though one should have talked to the stove.

We then said: “My lords, will you not permit
us, to dispute in regular order, as we have requested?”

Ans. “No.”

“Well then,” said we, “You know the ground
of our faith, which we have freely confessed to you;
you may now do with us as you please (Jer. 26:14),
as far as God will permit; but take good heed what
you do, for there is a judge still higher than you.
Eph. 6:9. May the Lord open the eyes of your understanding,
that you may see how miserably you
are seduced and deceived by the false prophets, indeed
so that you fight against God and the Lamb,
for which it will go hard with you, unless you repent.”



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