# Hans Vermeersch, Also Called Hans Van Maes, Put To Death At Waesten, In Flanders, For The Testimony Of Jesus Christ, A. D. 1559. · Page 2 of 4

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They also asked me whether the sacrament used
by the church in the mass is not flesh and blood
after the consecration by the priest—whether it is
not the body of Christ in flesh and blood. I replied:
“How should this be possible; for it is written in
Acts (1:9), that he ascended to heaven; and in the
seventh chapter (v. 56) Stephen says: I see the
heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on
the right hand of God. And Peter, in his first
epistle, third chapter, says that he is risen, and
gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God;
hence he is not here.” He then asked me, whether
he was not able to be here by his divine power. I
said: “He can do nothing contrary to his word;
he is Almighty, I know; but he does not act contrary
to his word.” They further said that when he held
his supper with his disciples, he gave them his body
as is written in the text, since he said: “Take, eat,
this is my body.” Matt. 26:26. But I replied that
he did not give his body, but a morsel of bread; for
it is obvious that it [the body] was immediately delivered
into the hands of the Jews, and suffered, and
was hung on the cross; hence he certainly could not
give his body to eat, as he says himself: I will not
henceforth drink of this fruit of the vine, namely,
the wine which he before called his blood. Read the
tenth and eleventh chapters of the first epistle to the
Corinthians, where you can obtain a fuller understanding.
Hence he did not give his apostles his
body; but it represented his body. He then asked
me what I thought of the service performed in the
church. I said I regarded it as a great and abominable
idolatry. Thereupon he said: “Then you consider
her the whore of Babylon?” I replied: “Yes,
as is written Rev. 13:4, of the beast that caused
himself to be worshiped; hence, as many as would
not worship him, or receive the mark in their hand,
or in their foreheads, etc., who opposeth himself
against God in his elect. He then told me that we
could not show that our church, namely, that of the
Anabaptists (as they called it) had been in existence
forty years ago; and that their church had continued,
etc. I replied: “We do not keep a register
for our church, as does the Roman church; she
would soon be discovered; for every one seeks to
destroy or kill her, and she has not (as has the
Roman church) the Emperor or the King for her
helper, but Emperor, King or Prince diligently seek
to destroy her. But I will show you that she is fifteen
hundred and fifty-nine years old. For Christ
is the foundation stone and it is that long since he
was crucified.” They rejoined: “Yes, the Roman
church; for she was instituted by Peter; he was the
first; after him all the holy popes, and all the holy
doctors [teachers], as Jerome, Augustine, Ambrose,
Bernard, who are the four doctors of the holy
church, will you not believe these, who were such
learned men?” I said: “I believe only the word of
God.”

They also asked me whether I did not believe in
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy
Ghost: three persons, and one true God. I said:
“I find but one person in the Scriptures.” They
asked me who it was. I said: “Christ, who was
seen and heard; but the Father no one has ever
seen. Who then can say what person it is? for he
is invisible. John 9:37; 1:18. Neither has any one
ever seen the Holy Ghost. True, he has been seen
to descend as a dove upon Christ, but a dove cannot
be a person.” Then they said: “You do not
believe that there are three persons?” I replied:
“No, unless it be shown me by the Scriptures; but
I confess that they are three in essence, yet only
one true God. The Father is not the Son, nor the
Son the Holy Ghost. The Father I confess as the
Father; Jesus Christ as his Son, who proceeded
from him; and the Holy Ghost, as proceeded from
both the Father and the son; yet, inseparably one
true God.” John 17:8; 15:26.



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