# Hans Vermeersch, Also Called Hans Van Maes, Put To Death At Waesten, In Flanders, For The Testimony Of Jesus Christ, A. D. 1559. · Page 3 of 4

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He then asked me whether Christ did not assume
his flesh and blood from Mary. I replied:
“This will have to be shown to me.” They said:
“He is of the seed of David.” I said: “That he
assumed his flesh and blood from Mary, this the
Scriptures do not say. Read Luke, first chapter,
where the angel said: ‘Thou shalt conceive in thy
womb;’ and, further on, when Mary said: ‘How
shall this be, seeing I know not a man? The angel
answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall
come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall
overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing
which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son
of God.’ Consider these words; he says: ‘that holy
thing.’ And Paul says that the first Adam is of the
earth, earthy; but the second is the Lord from
heaven. Read in the first epistle to the Corinthians,
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in the fifteenth chapter (verse 47), where you can
see it clearly. Also, Heb. 10:5, where Paul says:
‘Wherefore, when he cometh into the world, he
saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but
a body hast thou prepared me.’ Again, John 16:28,
where Christ says that he came forth from the Father,
and came into the world; and many other
places, as in chapters eight and nine. Examine the
Scriptures, John’s Gospel, and the epistles.” He
then asked me, whether he took no substance from
Mary, in the way of nursing, etc. I replied that she
offered him up; when he had been brought forth
she wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him
in a manger. We further find that she cared for
him; as when at the age of twelve years he was
lost, they sought him, when they returned from
Jerusalem. It says that they sought him diligently,
and sorrowing (Luke 2:48). He then asked, whether
she did not suckle him. Ans. “Christ spake (when
the woman said: ‘Blessed are the paps which thou
hast sucked): Yea, woman, blessed is he that heareth
my word, and keepeth it.” Luke 11:27,28.
Ques. “What do you think; tell us your opinion?”
Ans. “I must not speak of that concerning which
the Scriptures give me no information; suppositions
are of no value.” He also asked me, whether Christ!
was not of the seed of David. I said: “How should
he be of the seed of David; for Christ said himself
(when the Pharisees asked whose son he was,
whether he was not the son of David): How then
doth David call him Lord, saying, The Lord said
unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I
make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then
call him Lord, how is he his son?” Matt. 22:42,45.
They did not know what to say. I then said: “I
know that he is born out of the seed of David, but
not of the seed of David.” Rom. 1:3.[283](/en/stories/mm-footnotes/part-16/#Footnote_283) They replied:
“Gal. 4:4 it is written that he was made of a
woman.” I said; “It is preposterous, that a woman
should make a child. Do not all the other Scriptures
say: ‘Born of a woman?’ ” He said: “I could
show in forty places, that he is of the seed of David.”
But he would not show it. I then said: “If she conceived
him of the Holy Ghost, he cannot be of the
seed of David.”

He also asked me, where men went to, when they
leave this world. I replied: “They fall asleep in the
Lord, as the Scriptures testify, namely, the believers.”
Acts 7:60. He asked whither the souls went.
I replied: “Paul said that he was willing to fall
asleep according to the flesh, and to be present with
the Lord; and thus am I minded.” 2 Cor. 5:8. He
then asked where the other souls went to. Ans.
“The Scriptures say nothing about it; neither can I
say whither they go.” Ques. “What do you think
about it? they go somewhere.” Ans. “I leave this
to Divine Providence.”

He then asked what I thought of the resurrection
of the dead. I replied: “As is written 1 Corinthians
15:53, where Paul says that this mortal shall
put on immortality, and this corruptible, incorruption,
and that this same body shall rise.” He was
unable to reply to this. He then asked me whither
children went that died without baptism. I said:
“Where it pleases God.” He asked whether they
were saved. Ans. “Christ blessed the children, and
said: Of such is the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew
19:14. Ques. “Then you say that they are saved?”
Ans. “If they have the kingdom of heaven, they
are happy enough.” Ques. “Behold, they are
damned, this is clear.” Ans. “Read Romans
5:17–19, where it says that as by one man’s disobedience
death comes, so by the obedience of one
life comes upon all men.” He further asked me
whether I would not be obedient to the magistracy.
Ans. “Yes, my lords, so far as it is not contrary to
the command of God; for Peter says we ought to
obey God rather than men.” Acts 5:29. He then
asked me whether I would not swear before the
lords. Ans. “No.” Ques. “We must obey the
magistracy; Paul and Peter teach this.” Ans.
“Christ says: ‘Swear not at all; neither by thy
head, etc.; but let your yea be yea; and your nay,
nay; for whatsoever is more than these cometh of
evil.” Matt. 5:34; Jas. 5:12. Also 2 Cor. 1:17. He
then asked me whether we were not bound to tell
the truth. Ans. “Yes.” Ques. “Tell me who your
accomplices are?” Ans. “To accuse our neighbor
is not the truth; Christ does not teach that.” He
then adjured me by Jesus Christ, the Son of the
living God, that I should tell him. I said: “I care
not for your adjuring; it is sorcery.” Then he said
that we were bound to act contrary to the command
of God, on account of the adjuration.



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