# Joos Kindt, A. D. 1553. A Letter Or Confession Of Joos Kindt, Imprisoned At Kortrijck, Where He Subsequently Lost His Life At The Stake, For The Testimony Of Jesus, A. D. 1553, Reckoning The Beginning Of The Year From New Year’S Day. · Page 4 of 4

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Much more yet was said by them, but it is not
worth while to write it. They also said that Christ
had said that the scribes and the Pharisees sat in
Moses’ seat, and that he had commanded us to do
after their commandments, but not after their works;
therefore, said they, do what we advise you, but do
not after our works, since Christ teaches this. Matthew
23:1,2. I asked: “Who did Christ say sat in
Moses’ seat?” Ans. “The Pharisees.” I asked
again: “Does this Scripture belong to you?” Ans.
“Yes.” I said: “Then you confess that you are of
their generation?”

Then Sir Cornelis, the parish priest, asked me
why I did not believe in one article of the Roman
church. I doubtless believed that Christ was crucified,
which the Roman church also believes, which
was certainly an article; and why I believed that
Matthew’s gospel was gospel, which was nowhere
written; [he also said that] he would show me that
Paul wrote before the evangelists. I then said:
“Show me that Paul wrote before Matthew.” Sir
Cornelis said: “What have you to do with that?”
I replied: “Should I have nothing to do with it?
my life and soul are at stake, according to what you
say.” Sir Cornelis said: “He is overcome.” I said:
“Be silent, you are not worthy of being spoken to,
and see that you do not say in my absence, that you
overcame me, or that I have the devil in me, or
condemn me among the simple people, and deceive
them still more.” Then Ronse said: “You are
damned, if you remain so.” I said: “Why?”
Ronse replied: “Because you believe not.” I said:
“I do believe, and I adhere so firmly to my faith,
that I would rather go into the fire, than transgress
a single point.”

Much more took place which would be too long
to write. Finally I was led back into prison, where
two shackles were put on me. I said: “I am ready,
not only to suffer myself to be shackled, but also to
die the most ignominious death for the name of the
Lord.” Acts 21:13.

On Monday Polet and the fat-monger came, and
asked me how it was with me. I told them that it
had never been as well, for which I praised the
Lord. They said that they were very glad of it.
Polet then said: “Joos, how can your cause and
your church be good—the Germans have a congregation,
and the English have one; but where are
the members of your congregation? You alone are
not a church. Let us hear whether you are also a
flock, and who your members are.” Then said I
five or six times: “Get thee behind me, and depart
from me, Satan;” whereupon they both ran away.
Then I said: “Now you speak; at the judgment
another shall speak.” Thus I saw them no more.
I have heard that I am to be severely tortured; for
they think to obtain from me all the particulars;
but I trust the Lord, that he will keep my lips.
Hence, pray the Lord for me, that he will succor
me, for they thirst for much blood; but they can do
no more than the Lord permits them. Therefore I
commend myself into the hands of the Lord; and
anything you may hear which is not in this letter,
regard as lies. In token of the truth I hope to
seal this letter with my blood. To this end may
God give his grace, that his name may be praised
thereby.

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