# Paul Glock, A. D. 1576. · Page 2 of 3 [Previous page: PAUL GLOCK, A. D. 1576.](/en/stories/mm-paul-glock-a-d-1576/) · [Book contents](/en/sources/martyrs-mirror/#book-contents) · [Next page: PAUL GLOCK, A. D. 1576.](/en/stories/mm-paul-glock-a-d-1576/part-3/) In the year 1572 the preachers of the Prince came to him the third time, to the castle of Hohenwithing, talked much with him, and examined him concerning many things. In the year 1573 they had him brought into the city of Aurach, where then were the preachers and the steward of the country (who is the next after the Prince), and they disputed with him about infant baptism. They said: “Children have faith, and hence they are justly brought to baptism; for the apostle says: Without faith it is impossible to please God.” Heb. 11:6. But Paul said: “The apostle does not say this of children, nor does he speak to children, but with adults; and he further says in the same place: He that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Now place before me a child, and if it shows so much confession and faith, then baptize it freely.” They said: “A child needs no confession.” “Then it also needs no baptism,” said he. Then they were silent about that, and began to speak of the magistrates, saying that they were Christians, since the apostle calls them God’s ministers. The brother replied: “The apostle calls them ministers (Romans 13:4) because of the council, and the council does not belong in the house of God or Christ.” They said: “The council does certainly belong in the house of God.” The brother said: “Then show 973 me a lawful magistracy in the house or church of Christ; for the apostle ordained all offices in the house of God: hence show me where he ordained the princes or worldly kings with their offices in the church.” Then the preachers began and said: “Cornelius was a centurion over soldiers, and became a Christian.” Acts 10:1. They also mentioned Sergius Paulus, and said that he had been the deputy of the country. Acts 13:7. Then the brother asked them, whether they also believed that the apostle had preached the Gospel to them, by which they had to become believers, and whether, also, the apostle had been a true follower and teacher of Christ. They answered: “Yes.” He asked further: “did he also judge in a worldly manner—bear a sword?” They said: “No; but he wielded a spiritual sword and judgment.” “As you then also confess,” said the brother, “you also well know that the apostles preached the Gospel to Cornelius and Sergius Paulus; also that the people wanted to make Christ a king, and that he fled (John 6:15); again: The princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them; but it shall not be so among you; ye shall not resist evil (Matt. 20:25; 5:39): from all this they could easily learn that in following Christ they could not administer any worldly magistracy or governorship; or if they wanted to be like Paul, who says: ‘Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.’ ” 1 Corinthians 11:1. Thereupon they were silent, and then began and said: “God forgives all men or sinners, however great their sins may be.” The brother answered and said: “I believe this too, if they truly repent and are sorry for their sinful works.” But he asked them, whether they also likewise forgave their fellow members and brethren, when they had sinned. They said: “Yes.” He said: “Why then do you hang your criminals, and help them to the gallows and the wheel; seeing you have forgiven them their sins, and they are your brethren?” Then they laughed over their own folly, and finally said: “For this reason the magistracy is ordained, that they should punish that which is evil.” The brother said: “Is repentance then a crime too?” The preachers said: “No; but it is a benefit.” The brother said: “Has the magistracy then power or a command from the Old or the New Testament, that they may put to death the righteous or penitent (as you say that they have eaten your sacrament, and are also become Christians)?” They said: “They must nevertheless be punished, as a warning to others.” The brother further asked, whether they also believed that, when by their preaching of infant baptism and the sacrament, they made such a criminal in prison pious, and he would accept the two articles, he was then a Christian, and could be regarded as a Christian? The preachers said: “Yes.” The brother said: “If he is then become a believer, as you say, he has also been sealed with the Spirit of God, according to the words of Paul; is this not your belief too?” They said: “Yes.” The brother said: “Then his body must also be a temple of God, because the Holy Ghost dwells in him.” 2 Cor. 6:16. They said: “Yes.” “See once then,” the brother said, “how you act, how you dishonor the temple of God, hanging it to the gallows; do you not know what the apostle says: If any man dishonor the temple of God, him shall God also dishonor and destroy? 1 Cor. 3:17. Behold your magistrates, what fine Christians they are, if they thus slay the penitent and dishonor the temple of God, if it is as you say and confess.” ## Original source [Read this passage on Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/65855/pg65855-images.html#Page_973) [Edition details](https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/65855) [Previous page: PAUL GLOCK, A. 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