# The Manner In Which These Trials Were Commenced In The Netherlands, About The Year 1215. · Page 2 of 3 [Previous page: THE MANNER IN WHICH THESE TRIALS WERE COMMENCED IN THE NETHERLANDS, ABOUT THE YEAR 1215.](/en/stories/mm-the-manner-in-which-these-trials-were-commenced-in-the-netherlands-about-the-year-1215/) · [Book contents](/en/sources/martyrs-mirror/#book-contents) · [Next page: THE MANNER IN WHICH THESE TRIALS WERE COMMENCED IN THE NETHERLANDS, ABOUT THE YEAR 1215.](/en/stories/mm-the-manner-in-which-these-trials-were-commenced-in-the-netherlands-about-the-year-1215/part-3/) “What do you hold with regard to the worship of the holy cross? the nails? the crown of thorns? the spear? and the images of the saints? “Have you ever journeyed to Rome, to obtain forgiveness of your sins? Have you sprinkled yourself with holy water? Have you tasted the consecrated salt? Have you consecrated twigs and tapers in your house? Have you done this with a pure and upright heart, as do other Christians, who by your people are called Strangers? or have you done it merely for appearance’ sake, so as not to be detected in your heresy? Tell the simple truth. “Do you not believe that St. Martin has become a saint, and that his holy soul is now in the kingdom of heaven? Will you drink in the name and to the remembrance of St. Martin? Do you know any hymns to the honor of God, or his holy mother? and so forth. “Say, finally: Will you desist with all your heart from your errors, and separate yourself from the heretics, and henceforth have no fellowship with them? If so, then swear thus: The second oath administered by the inquisitors to those who were at that time called heretics; which none of the true martyrs ever swore.—“I, N. N. N., swear an oath, to God Almighty, my lord, bishop N. N., and the lords present in his stead, without any dissimulation, that henceforth I will go no more to the people that call themselves, etc., and will have fellowship neither with them nor with their leaders, teachers, etc., as long as they remain heretics. Moreover, I forswear (see what papistic tricks these are), all manner of unbelief that is contrary to the open faith taught and maintained everywhere in the holy Roman church and in Christendom. And that I will also submit to penance for my transgressions, when and as it shall, though in mercy, be imposed upon me. So truly help me God and his mother, in my last hour.” Boxhorn, page 18. Concerning the examination, see page 15–17. Note.—Who does not see, beloved reader, that these were snares from which the pious could not extricate themselves without losing their lives? for it was certain that the Poor Men of Lyons, in those times, whether called Vaudois,[173](/en/stories/mm-footnotes/part-13/#Footnote_173) Waldenses, or Albigenses, did not swear at all; which, especially as regards the Waldenses and Albigenses, has been distinctly proved in our previous explanation. This, then, was the first snare which they could not escape. In the second place, by the form of that oath it was proposed to them, that they should forsake their entire religion, faith, and worship, and join themselves to the Roman church which they held to be worse than Babylon. How could this be done by them with a good conscience? In no wise. This snare, therefore, they could likewise not escape. What, then, had they to expect? Nothing less than certain death; yea, a cruel, ignominious, and accursed death, though blessed for those who, remaining steadfast, suffered it. 301 I will say nothing now of the cruel and horrible manner of inquisition, by red-hot iron, hot water, as also in open rivers;[174](/en/stories/mm-footnotes/part-13/#Footnote_174) which generally followed upon the examination just stated. What heathen or barbarians have ever acted thus? It is true, they put the pious witnesses of Jesus to death in a very painful manner; however, that was the end of it; and, besides, sometimes means remained by which it was possible to escape death, and yet keep the faith. And we nowhere read, that they ever had such a mode of inquisition over matters of faith; but the Romanists, who call themselves Christians, were not afraid or ashamed of it. Certainly, here one or the other, either the body or the soul, had to be sacrificed by the martyrs; for if they would save the body, by forsaking the faith, which they, in their conscience, recognized as the genuine, yea, the only and eternal truth, they were in danger, yea, fully assured of losing their souls; on the other hand, if they sought to preserve their souls, by their good confession, and by forsaking the superstitions of popery, they had to lose their bodies, and this by the most cruel, horrible, and miserable death; which, according to the custom at that time, was to be placed alive into the flames until death ensued. In this manner, very many, yea, almost a countless number, of pious Christians, called Albigenses and Waldenses, perished in those times; who, constrained by the love of Christ, to hold fast the confession of their faith, willingly exchanged this earthly for the heavenly; suffering here the tabernacle of their body to be dissolved, in order to have a building with God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 Cor. 5:1. ## Original source [Read this passage on Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/65855/pg65855-images.html#FNanchor_173) [Edition details](https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/65855) [Previous page: THE MANNER IN WHICH THESE TRIALS WERE COMMENCED IN THE NETHERLANDS, ABOUT THE YEAR 1215.](/en/stories/mm-the-manner-in-which-these-trials-were-commenced-in-the-netherlands-about-the-year-1215/) · [Book contents](/en/sources/martyrs-mirror/#book-contents) · [Next page: THE MANNER IN WHICH THESE TRIALS WERE COMMENCED IN THE NETHERLANDS, ABOUT THE YEAR 1215.](/en/stories/mm-the-manner-in-which-these-trials-were-commenced-in-the-netherlands-about-the-year-1215/part-3/) --- Page: https://history.truechristian.church/en/stories/mm-the-manner-in-which-these-trials-were-commenced-in-the-netherlands-about-the-year-1215/part-2/ [Contribute a correction or addition](https://github.com/trueChristian/history.truechristian.church/issues/new?title=Correction%3A+The+Manner+In+Which+These+Trials+Were+Commenced+In+The+Netherlands%2C+About+The+Year+1215.+%C2%B7+Page+2+of+3&body=%23%23+Page+or+topic%0AThe+Manner+In+Which+These+Trials+Were+Commenced+In+The+Netherlands%2C+About+The+Year+1215.+%C2%B7+Page+2+of+3%0A%0APage%3A+https%3A%2F%2Fhistory.truechristian.church%2Fen%2Fstories%2Fmm-the-manner-in-which-these-trials-were-commenced-in-the-netherlands-about-the-year-1215%2Fpart-2%2F%0A%0ARecord%3A+mm-the-manner-in-which-these-trials-were-commenced-in-the-netherlands-about-the-year-1215--b00021-o000000%0A%0ADate+currently+shown%3A+c.+1215%0A%0A%23%23+Correction+or+addition%0A%0A%0A%0A%23%23+Sources+and+evidence%0APlease+include+book%2Fpage+references%2C+archive+links%2C+or+first-hand+documentation.%0A%0A%0A%0A%23%23+Image+credit+%28if+applicable%29%0ACreator%2C+source%2C+and+permission+or+public-domain+basis.%0A%0A%0A%0ASubmitted+for+review%3B+this+issue+does+not+publish+changes+automatically.)