# The Second Letter Of Lauwerens Van Der Leyen. · Page 1 of 2

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Grace and peace be multiplied unto you, my
most beloved brethren and sisters in the Lord.
Know that I was examined, and that the Margrave
wanted to know much from me. I said I wanted
to tell him all that concerned my faith. He said:
“You shall tell me all.” I said: “What do you
wish to know?” He asked me: “What do you
think of the baptism you received in your infancy?”
I said: “Nothing at all.” He then wanted to know
where it was written that infants should not be baptized.
I said: “Mark 16:16; Matt. 28:19.” Much
incensed at me, he asked me: “What do you think
of the seven sacraments?” I replied: “I have never
read anything about it.” This question he repeated
twice or three times. I said: “I have never read
about it; but I believe that Christ is sitting on the
right hand of his Father, where I hope to be with
him, when the time will be fulfilled.”

He then asked me concerning auricular confession.
I said: “I acknowledge a confession; but I
think nothing of auricular confession; but I confess
daily before my heavenly Father.” This enraged
the Margrave, and he said that he should have me
placed to the stake, or thrown into the water. I told
him to do with me as he pleased, since my flesh
was at his disposal. He then told me, that he
should send other learned men. I replied that I
already had the faith I wanted to believe. He
said: “You must hearken to them.” I answered:
“Though you cut me limb from limb, I trust I shall
not deny the Lord my God.” Then the Margrave
and his Judges were very angry at me; for one of
the latter said, that he should put me on a galley;
but I replied: “Do with me as you please.” Then
the Margrave said: “I shall not be so lenient to
him; but we will have him placed to the stake.”
I said: “I remind you of my sentence;” and told
him, how, when I was apprehended the last time,
I had been prohibited, on pain of decapitation or
the stake, from singing any hymns, and that I should
take care not to be one of such people. “But”
[said I] “I do not say this because I am therefore
now the bolder; for even if I had never previously
been prohibited from it, I should not want to deny
my Lord and God.”

The Margrave then asked me: “Does your
mother also belong to them?” I replied: “I wish
she did.” And I said: “When I used to gamble
and get drunk, and to follow the world, I was left
unmolested; but now that I truly confess the name
of God, I am persecuted; but it is as the prophet
Isaiah says: ‘Truth is fallen in the street, and equity
cannot enter; and he that departeth from evil maketh
himself a prey.’ ” Isa. 59:14,15.

One of the Judges then said to me: “Have you
also stolen?” I asked him twice or three times:
“Did you ever hear that I did?” but he made no
reply. They then began to speak very suavely to
me, and said: “If you will renounce all that you
have said here, we shall tear this paper in pieces,
and show you mercy.” And the Margrave said:
“You certainly know, how your sister fared on this
account, whom I caused to be thrown into the
Scheldt.” But I replied that she had died for the
truth; and as regards myself: “I do not want to
deny my Lord and God, who created and made
me; I will rather let you do with me whatever you
please.” Then the Margrave said: “Do you think
we cannot also read? we, too, daily read the Scriptures;
but these cobblers and tailors want to be wiser
than we are. I am very glad that you have fallen
into my hands; for, doubtless God the Lord sent
you into that house, that I might punish you, so
that others should take an example from you.”
And he applied many ugly epithets to me, and said:
“You have often eaten and drank in my house;
I am sorry I did not tie up your throat.” And he
asked me: “If you were not a prisoner, would you
have yourself rebaptized?” I said: “If you will
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release me to-morrow, I will use diligence to have
myself baptized; for this behooves believers.”

He then asked me: Will you confess nothing
else?” and interrogated me concerning princes and
lords, and the Pope of Rome. I said: “I hold God
Almighty to be my Supreme Creator, and my
King.” Then the Margrave said: “I have at home
a little book, covered with chamois.” I said: “My
lord, that book belonged to me, and if you will
read it, you will therein find what our faith is.” He
replied: “They were first published by the Pope of
Rome.” I said: “I do not regard them thus; but
it is the Testament, left us by God for a memorial.”
He was enraged at me, and said: “I wish I had
never seen you;” and irefully said: “Begone; for
I and these lords, the judges, came to instruct you;
but we shall send you other learned men.” I thanked
him much for the trouble they had taken.



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