# Trithemius’ Account Of Their Examination, And Disputation With Ecbert; Also Of Their Death.

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Trithemius gives a brief description of their examination,
and disputation with Ecbert, abbot of the
monastery of St. Florian in Schonaugh, in the bishopric
of Treves:

The clergy and the chief men of the city of
Cologne, by messengers and letters, requested Ecbert
to come to Cologne, as being a very learned
man, in order to examine said heretics. Abbot Ecbert
arrived at Cologne, August 2d, A. D. 1163,
and entered into a public disputation with three of
these heretics, Arnold, Marsilius, and Theodoric,
who seemed to possess better abilities than the rest.

However, he does not state precisely, what were
the articles of the discussion, unless we are to glean
them from his following words: “They contemned
all the rulers of the church, prelates, priests, and
clerks, calling them soul-deceivers and snares of the
devil. They ridiculed the sacraments of the Roman
church (among which was included infant baptism),
and denied the holy body and blood of the Lord
(that is, transubstantiation in the sacrament of the
altar). Now, when they could neither by arguments,
nor by authority (namely, from the testimony of the
fathers), nor by admonitions, be induced to renounce
their errors (thus he calls their true faith),
but obstinately persisted in their purpose, they were
utterly cast out from the church, and delivered into
the hands of the laity, that is, into the power of the
secular authorities, who led them, eight men and
two women, out of the city, and committed them
to the flames, on the fifth day of August of the same
year.” Frith., in Hist. Also, 2d book of the Persecutions,
fol. 441, col. 3, 4.



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